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As far as the other positions, I’m by no means an expert either. I know there are quite a few names I recognize from the NFL, XFL 2.0, and really more than I thought from the USFL. Obviously things didn’t work out for them in the NFL but now that they are free agents I’m quite surprised at the amount of top talent the USFL had that jumped ship. I’m not up to speed on a lot of the younger talent that was drafted so someone smarter than me, maybe like Greg Parks, can weigh in. I think after day 1, the XFL has a really strong draft going. A very good mix of veterans and young players, I really like that ratio. I mean for the XFL to have a Vic Beasley? Wow, that’s a win. Can’t wait for day 2.
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I should add though that until these players sign their contract nothing is official. I’m sure there are some that don’t play in the league for different reasons. Some may not jump to the XFL, electing to re-sign with the USFL after all.
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MGB01 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:50 pm
GDAWG wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pm
DavedaHammer wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:29 pm

And how many times has the XFL ceased operations. It has been a 20 year gap between the first XFL and XFL.2.

It's not a tough sell if the CFL goes into under serviced markets during the Summer. The CFL have changed it business model with a long-term CBA(does the XFL have one?) revenue sharing, a partnership with Genius Sports to find a US broadcasting partner. Got new owners in BC, Montreal and Toronto ain't going anywhere. Why do you think the Rock approached the CFL for a merger talks. The CFL was getting a new approach to business.

It's a big week upcoming for the CFL too. The Grey Cup is on this Sunday, Be sure to watch it.
So....any reaction to this?

https://frontofficesports.com/bears-fac ... w-stadium/
Not only that, the obvious of how you're going to get cities and MLS/other tenants to sign off on lengthening the field 30 yards.
Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
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DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am
MGB01 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:50 pm
GDAWG wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:30 pm

So....any reaction to this?

https://frontofficesports.com/bears-fac ... w-stadium/
Not only that, the obvious of how you're going to get cities and MLS/other tenants to sign off on lengthening the field 30 yards.
Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
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GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am
MGB01 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:50 pm

Not only that, the obvious of how you're going to get cities and MLS/other tenants to sign off on lengthening the field 30 yards.
Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
If they play in Philly it would likely be Subaru just o/s city limits. Philly is in freefall and can't do much right these days. Getting a deal in Memphis and Birm far easier than there.
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4th&long wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:56 am
GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am

Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
If they play in Philly it would likely be Subaru just o/s city limits. Philly is in freefall and can't do much right these days. Getting a deal in Memphis and Birm far easier than there.
Subaru enhances my point, Philly has options unlike Oklahoma City. Alt football should go to cities that have multiple stadium options.
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GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am
MGB01 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:50 pm

Not only that, the obvious of how you're going to get cities and MLS/other tenants to sign off on lengthening the field 30 yards.
Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
As far as college stadiums go, you have to consider the history.

Penn has historically been very open to having outside teams use their facilities. Columbia, on the other hand, never has. Which is unfortunate because NYC is missing out royally by outsourcing its major outdoor sports to New Jersey and (to a lesser extent) Long Island.
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:22 pm
GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am

Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
As far as college stadiums go, you have to consider the history.

Penn has historically been very open to having outside teams use their facilities. Columbia, on the other hand, never has. Which is unfortunate because NYC is missing out royally by outsourcing its major outdoor sports to New Jersey and (to a lesser extent) Long Island.
Penn though has a busy schedule, so even if they are open to it, they have so many track and field events that it's going to be hard to fit a pro football team into their schedule.

New York's hope is the just announced New York City FC Stadium, across the street from Citi Field.
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johnnyangryfuzzball wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:22 pm
GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am

Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
As far as college stadiums go, you have to consider the history.

Penn has historically been very open to having outside teams use their facilities. Columbia, on the other hand, never has. Which is unfortunate because NYC is missing out royally by outsourcing its major outdoor sports to New Jersey and (to a lesser extent) Long Island.
Manhattan is already so crowded with revenue-producing real estate that there's no room for stadiums. Columbia is so rich that it doesn't worry about revenue. And apparently the Yankees are much the same because they've only let their stadium be used by an MLS team that they part-own. Every attempt to find a new stadium site for that team has turned into an epic war. You know it's bad when they considered turning an old pier used as a parking garage into an MLS stadium, only to find out that the pilings were too rotten to affordably restore.
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GDAWG wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:57 am
DavedaHammer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:15 am
MGB01 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:50 pm

Not only that, the obvious of how you're going to get cities and MLS/other tenants to sign off on lengthening the field 30 yards.
Find college stadiums that have an oval track like Wein Stadium in New York, Franklin Field in Philadelphia. Seat Geek Stadium in Bridgeport(Chicago) if they get rid of the stage at one of the endzones. Teams could retain the college colors and single letter logo for continuity sakes. No need to repaint the field for the pro team
Franklin Field is super busy from March to December with football and track and field events, so The University of Pennsylvania isn't going to do that. Highly unlikely that Penn and Columbia are going to say yes to any kind of pro football being played at their stadium.

Second, this is what some people who follow non NFL football don't understand: Just because there's a college stadium as an option for a city doesn't mean that pro football is going to happen. The University has to sign off on it and there's no guarantee that happens. The XFL 2.0 and XFL 2023 were lucky that the University of Houston said yes to pro football playing at their stadium. If the college says no, there's no need to harp on it. If Pennsylvania and Columbia say no (and it seems likely) to any pro football, then we should move on and try somewhere else. Can't just randomly put Oklahoma City in any of the spring leagues because there's no place to play. It's much easier for any non NFL pro football league to put a team in Columbus, Ohio (due to Historic Crew Stadium) than it is Oklahoma City.

Fans of alternative football need to be 100% realistic about where to put expansion teams. If I want an expansion team, the focus should be on MLS stadiums if one is accessible or stadiums not owned by college teams. Stadiums owned by college teams are likely the hardest to get for an alternative football league since not every university will be open to it as The University of Houston is to the XFL. Those stadiums are not realistic to land for any non NFL league if the universities say no, and this includes the CFL.

Cities like Austin, Salt Lake City, Kansas City (Kansas), Portland, Minneapolis/St. Paul, San Jose, Los Angeles, Miami, Newark (New Jersey) would all have options and would be more realistic for alternative leagues than New York City (unless a team gets put in MetLife and that would be a disaster), Oklahoma City, Milwaukee and Oakland.
CFL teams share stadiums with Canadian Universities like the Bombers/Univ. of Manitoba, Calgary Stampeders. Univ. of Calgary and the Montreal Alouette/McGill. So it not if the CFL teams are negligent in the maintenance of the stadiums. CFL teams respect the Universities demands for school conformity. If the Univ. of Houston can allow the XFL play in it's stadium, the northern schools can do so also. It helps the school's football program to share a facility with a pro team, college players get a first hand look at the college players, schools get free publicity with the school logo shown on television. added revenue to the school budget.

US MLS stadiums won't fit a CFL field. But Seat Geek Stadium in Chicago/Bridgeport might work since it's owned by the municipality of Bridgeport, but it's capacity holds 20.000. A CFL team needs 25,000 for make a profit from the gate
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