PSU-Illini play an XFL Overtime

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Tank55
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PSU-Illini play an XFL Overtime

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If you missed it, Penn State and Illinois played a nine-overtime game. Starting this season, after the second overtime, the format switches to alternating two-point conversions, which more or less effectively recreated what would have been the XFL overtime format.

Sam Schwartzstein wrote a Twitter thread about it, which I recommend:

https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 2194489345

Interesting tidbits (some of which I'm sure most of you already know): that they were emphasizing "perceived fairness" rather than just actual fairness and that they took sportsbooks' preferences heavily into account.

One part I didn't totally get:
Problems some people had with my overtime: Defense can't score. In a team meeting a NY Guardians player "You gonna have to change that OT rule, no defense scaring is BS" and my response "No I don't".

It makes it unfair again to go second if the defense could score.
https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 0154581000

I'm not sure what makes this unfair to the team going second on offense?

And as an aside, I thought this was fascinating:
Old California HS football had teams alternating plays from midfield with each team next play starting where the last team play ended. Winner is after 5 rounds who gained the most distance from the 50. A true tug of war version of football.
https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 5674252293

I think the format I like best is that you give one team a 1-point lead and the other team the ball with 2:00 on the clock. Each team has to "bid" on what yard line they would want to start on if they have to play on offense. Whichever team bids lower gets the ball. Eg, the Roughnecks are willing to go down a point and drive for the game-winning field goal from their own 15. The Defenders are only willing to go back to their own 25. So the Roughnecks take the ball on their own 15, down 1, with 2:00 on the clock for the XFL Championship.

Or maybe you do the same format but the team is down 4, so you need a touchdown to win rather than field goal.
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Re: PSU-Illini play an XFL Overtime

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Tank55 wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:21 pm If you missed it, Penn State and Illinois played a nine-overtime game. Starting this season, after the second overtime, the format switches to alternating two-point conversions, which more or less effectively recreated what would have been the XFL overtime format.

Sam Schwartzstein wrote a Twitter thread about it, which I recommend:

https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 2194489345

Interesting tidbits (some of which I'm sure most of you already know): that they were emphasizing "perceived fairness" rather than just actual fairness and that they took sportsbooks' preferences heavily into account.

One part I didn't totally get:
Problems some people had with my overtime: Defense can't score. In a team meeting a NY Guardians player "You gonna have to change that OT rule, no defense scaring is BS" and my response "No I don't".

It makes it unfair again to go second if the defense could score.
https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 0154581000

I'm not sure what makes this unfair to the team going second on offense?

And as an aside, I thought this was fascinating:
Old California HS football had teams alternating plays from midfield with each team next play starting where the last team play ended. Winner is after 5 rounds who gained the most distance from the 50. A true tug of war version of football.
https://twitter.com/schwartzsteins/stat ... 5674252293

I think the format I like best is that you give one team a 1-point lead and the other team the ball with 2:00 on the clock. Each team has to "bid" on what yard line they would want to start on if they have to play on offense. Whichever team bids lower gets the ball. Eg, the Roughnecks are willing to go down a point and drive for the game-winning field goal from their own 15. The Defenders are only willing to go back to their own 25. So the Roughnecks take the ball on their own 15, down 1, with 2:00 on the clock for the XFL Championship.

Or maybe you do the same format but the team is down 4, so you need a touchdown to win rather than field goal.

Very interesting and informative. I saw that score yesterday but haven’t had a chance to read up on it. I don’t follow college as close as the pros but don’t know how I missed the change in overtime rules. I guess in a way we are finally getting our XFL overtime. Thanks for the post Tank!
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The Harvard/Dartmouth clash went to multiple OTs too with Dartmouth winning, although the officials apparently helped Dartmouth with a timeout (which shouldn't have been allowed) that took away a go ahead Harvard conversion in the fourth OT.

The first OT game this year actually took place in an XFL stadium: San Diego State's 3OT win over Utah in Carson, funny how the media are just now discovering this (and predictably whining about it) six weeks later :roll:
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Just had another one: Bama over Auburn in 4OT (two with the conversion battles) 24-22
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