TSL season’s end another black eye for secondary football leagues

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TSL season’s end another black eye for secondary football leagues

Post by MarkNelson » Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:56 pm

The Spring League’s issues will only make it harder for the XFL to take hold amongst those inside the business of football.

https://xflboard.com/news/tsl-seasons-e ... l-leagues/

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Post by 4th&long » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:44 am

MarkNelson wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:56 pm
The Spring League’s issues will only make it harder for the XFL to take hold amongst those inside the business of football.

https://xflboard.com/news/tsl-seasons-e ... l-leagues/

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While understanding why you brought it up, I don't agree with that conclusion at all. TSL is a diff animal and Corona had the big impact. Based on what Woods said in his interview, and reading between statements, Fox is interested. Clearly China-virus screwed this up, but NBA/MLB/CFB/NFL are all playing and TSL mostly played.
And that was the best interview I've heard from Woods and I like the XFL-MarkCast traditional question asking style, direct but non-adversarial style. He made sense and came across as legit.

XFL 3.0 issue is funding, like AAF. TSL was time, covid and rushing.

I hope they come back, they fit a diff niche than XFL/AAF.

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Post by Tank55 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:00 am

Why are you bolding and underlining China?
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Post by 4th&long » Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am

Tank55 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:00 am
Why are you bolding and underlining China?
why not. they are the source country for the virus.

On Topic: Did you listen to the XFL MarkCast? Check out the B Woods part.

Its a long shot, but I hope they have the 12/2 Championship. It will give us something to talk about.

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Post by FootballYoda » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:34 am

Tank55 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:00 am
Why are you bolding and underlining China?
He has to keep on calling it that. It has become a troll move now. I hope it’s moderated out.

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Post by Joker » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:01 am

Thanks for the article Greg. It’s a nice summary of where the Spring League has gone.

It seems the Spring League will be back, and even a championship game is planned. Not sure how that will work when it sounds like all the players went home.

Woods sounds like he has a thick skin and can take the criticism. Players already seem to be wary of his league, but it also seems there are more players that will risk the Spring League just for a chance at glory.
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Post by Tank55 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:46 pm

4th&long wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am
why not.
Because we're talking about the Spring League, so it looks like you're implying that the country of origin is somehow relevant to their decisions or execution.
4th&long wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am
On Topic: Did you listen to the XFL MarkCast? Check out the B Woods part.
Yeah, I'm surprised you found that convincing. Just as one example, when he's talking about the COVID protocols, he says something like "everyone needed to take a COVID test prior to arriving, preferably within 72 hours." (Emphasis mine.) What does "preferably" mean? If someone shows up with a test a 96 hours old, were they let in? Two weeks old? What if they didn't have a test at all? How many players failed to meet the 72 hour rule?
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Post by 4th&long » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:29 pm

Tank55 wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:46 pm
4th&long wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am
why not.
Because we're talking about the Spring League, so it looks like you're implying that the country of origin is somehow relevant to their decisions or execution.
4th&long wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:12 am
On Topic: Did you listen to the XFL MarkCast? Check out the B Woods part.
Yeah, I'm surprised you found that convincing. Just as one example, when he's talking about the COVID protocols, he says something like "everyone needed to take a COVID test prior to arriving, preferably within 72 hours." (Emphasis mine.) What does "preferably" mean? If someone shows up with a test a 96 hours old, were they let in? Two weeks old? What if they didn't have a test at all? How many players failed to meet the 72 hour rule?
I did find it believable... this isnt the NFL or CFB. If it wasnt 72 hours perhaps in a week. Did it mean April? I doubt it. They were all tested a week after arrival. Do supermarket workers get tested ? Ever?
I guess my point is nothing is perfect and I would expect less from a Dev league vs major. The fact that had pretty robust testing at all is a positive.

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Post by GregParks » Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:52 pm

I would say normally I'd be fine taking someone like Woods at his word, but I'm not sure he's earned that given his previous football ventures and some other questionable moves he's made in the past that have been documented on this board.

Bottom line, there were issues beyond COVID here, as evidenced in the Mitchell article I cited as well as the public complaint from at least one player - the Tweets by Farrow and the UFPA certainly make it sound like more have come forward. As has been said, there will never be a shortage of players willing to chase their dream even if it's into the buzzsaw of a scam (not saying that's what TSL is, but others have). The question is then getting players of quality.

And of course, I feel like I need to throw this in there again: We have no actual evidence beyond conjecture that the XFL3.0 is having/has had/ever will have a funding problem.
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Post by 4th&long » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:19 pm

GregParks wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:52 pm
I would say normally I'd be fine taking someone like Woods at his word, but I'm not sure he's earned that given his previous football ventures and some other questionable moves he's made in the past that have been documented on this board.

Bottom line, there were issues beyond COVID here, as evidenced in the Mitchell article I cited as well as the public complaint from at least one player - the Tweets by Farrow and the UFPA certainly make it sound like more have come forward. As has been said, there will never be a shortage of players willing to chase their dream even if it's into the buzzsaw of a scam (not saying that's what TSL is, but others have). The question is then getting players of quality.

And of course, I feel like I need to throw this in there again: We have no actual evidence beyond conjecture that the XFL3.0 is having/has had/ever will have a funding problem.
Conjecture is all we need. But there is evidence - DG has said the league needs a paying contract, that its not operating on self funding. She didn't say quite that way I'm paraphrasing, but that's all the evidence I need.

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